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For owners who may be new or unfamiliar with the Tesla Roadster, I'll run through the basic information needed to preserve this rare and special vehicle.

The most obvious concern is properly maintaining the battery pack. If the Roadster is left unattended and without power for weeks or months, the battery back will slowly discharge until the pack is fully depleted. If this happens, the battery pack may be ruined. Even if plugged in, if power is interrupted by a popped breaker, extended outage, service disconnection, etc., permanent damage to the battery pack can occur.

Also of concern is temperature. The Roadster should not be left unplugged in extreme temperatures. If the battery pack gets hot, it should be plugged in so it can cool. Consult the owners manual for more information.

Charging

Level 1 In the United States and Canada, the Roadster can be charged at 120V with a simple cord sold as the MC-120. It just connects the car to power with no EVSE logic and the car assumes a 15A circuit suitable for charging at 12A. At this power level, the car can't run the full cooling system and in fact uses a lot of the power just to run the coolant pump. This means a slow rate of charge, and in fact in hot weather, may use all of the power just trying to cool the battery pack. In comfortable weather, not too hot and not too cold, and no rush to get charged, this can be an effective way to charge. Some owners used Level 1 exclusively. Since the coolant pump tends to run continuously, even after charging is complete, there may be a corresponding reducing in the lifetime of the coolant pump.

Level 2 charging means connecting to 240V single-phase power using an EVSE that communicates the maximum current draw allowed for the circuit. It uses the same communication protocol as standard J-1772 charging stations. Having more power means the battery pack can be better thermally managed, which can make quite a bit of noise when the fans, compressor and pumps are all going full tilt. The maximum charge rate of the Roadster is 240V/70A. Unless we were in a hurry on a road trip, we generally charged at 240V/32A which yields good energy efficiency and may be nicer to the battery.

The Roadster can charge from a standard J-1772 station with an appropriate adapter. Tesla sold one for a while and there's an aftermarket adapter.

Charge Modes

The Roadster has four charge modes, used for different purposes.

Standard Mode limits charging to the middle 80% of the battery pack, not letting the charge level get too high and warning the driver, and even shutting the car down, before getting critically low. This is the mode used for daily charging of a Roadster that's driven locally with some regularity.

Range Mode opens up the full charging range, allowing a higher state of charge and enables driving down to a lower start of charge. Range mode also limits power from the pack, and thus reducing maximum acceleration in the name of extending range. Occasional range mode charging didn't seem to have a negative effect on our battery pack, but charging frequently to the top of range mode may accelerate the loss of battery capacity. When we owned a Roadster, we'd do a full range mode charge at the start of long road trip, then switch over to standard mode for driving.

Performance Mode uses the full charging range, allows the battery to get warmer while charging, and allows maximum power (full acceleration). This is appropriate for driving on a track, but probably accelerates loss of battery pack capacity if used often.

Storage Mode displays the state of charge like Standard Mode, but will let the state of charge drop to around 30% then will maintain that level of charge. This is the best mode to use when the Roadster won't be driven for weeks or months. The car must be plugged in to maintain the health of the battery pack. The disadvantage of Storage Mode is that if the power supply is interrupted, it will start discharging from around 30%, so it will get into trouble sooner than if left in Standard mode. That's probably more of a concern if it's in long term storage and ignored vs. being kept for the winter in your garage where you'll notice of the power goes out or the breaker gets tripped.

An example charge screen:

The drawing below shows how to interpret the state of charge in the two main charge modes. Range values are for the original 53 kWh battery pack when new.

Vehicle Log

The Roaster maintains a detailed internal log which can be downloaded via the USB port in the console. Although the format of the logs isn't documented by Tesla, various owners have been able to decode and extra a great deal of data. The log file has two sections: a long term section that has basic info and a more detailed section of recent driving and charging. See the page on the VMSParser I created for more information.

Remote Monitoring

The Roadster did not have support for remote monitoring, not at all for the 2008 (v1.5) Roadster and nothing driver-accessbile for the 2009 and later (v2) Roadster.

There is an aftermarket system availble, the Open Vehicle Monitoring System or OVMS. OVMS allows for remote monitoring of charging, GPS tracking, custom charge settings, and viewing battery metrics. In addition to allowing manual remote monitoring, it can also send low-battery alerts and unexpected motion alerts if the car moves not under its own power.

More Resources

There are a number of other entries on the blog detailing our adventures with the Roadster, plus another collection of longer Roadster articles of practical and historical interest.

The Tesla Motors Club forum is the best community resource around, although its focus has natually shifted to the newer Tesla vehicles.

At the National Drive Electric Week event in Seattle, Cathy and I saw the newly-announced but not yet available 2018 Nissan LEAF. At that event, we signed up for a test drive.

Today, October 23, 2017, Jose pulled up in front of our house in a beautiful blue Nissan LEAF for our test drive. We spent about an hour going over the vehicle and then out for a drive. Jose was enthusiastic and very knowledgeable about the car. We have a 2011 LEAF, so I'm familiar with that but haven't driven any of the newer LEAFs, so that's my perspective.

Back Seat

The LEAF claims to be a 5-passenger vehicle, but the middle back seat has no head rest, so no neck protection in a rear-end collision. We often have 5 adults in the car, so that matters to us. I've been especially aware of this since we were rear-ended this summer. Fortunately, it was just the two of us in the car at the time, and neither of us were injured. My head hit the head rest pretty hard, so I'm glad it was there. I can't understand why Nissan doesn't protect the middle seat passenger.

Charge Cord

The SV and SL packages include a dual Level 1 (120V)/Level 2 (240V) charge cord. The standard 120V plug comes off to reveal a NEMA 14-50 240V plug.

With so much public charging available now, there's not much need for Level 2 charging away from home, but the dual mode cord means an owner can upgrade their home charging to 240V by just installing a NEMA 15-40 outlet.

Quiet Ride

When we started the test drive, right away I noticed how quiet it is. I'm told it has the same pedestrian warning sound as the 2011 model, but I couldn't hear it or the inverter whine which are pretty apparent in the 2011. I used to think our LEAF was quiet, but the 2018 is amazingly quiet. There was just the barest hint of a sound at low speeds in the driveway, maybe the pedestrian warning or the electronics, but much quieter. Likewise for road noise at freeway speeds, much quieter than our old LEAF.

One Pedal Driving

One of the best things about the electric driving experience is one pedal driving. It's so natural: push the accelerator pedal to go faster, let up to go slower. With regenerative braking, an EV can be much smoother and natural than a gas car, can slow down on a steep hill without using the brakes, and cruise control can hold you at a steady speed up and down hills. Automakers seem to be afraid of taking full advantage of this feature for fear it will be unfamiliar to gas car drivers, but Nissan has fully embraced it in the new LEAF. In the 2018, I was able to bring the car to a full stop on the steepest part of our driveway. Amazing! At the bottom of our drive, I brought it to a full stop, nudged it forward to look around our mailbox for traffic, then eased onto the road, all using just the accelerator pedal.

Nissan calls this feature ePedal. It can be turned on and off, and can be set to on or off by default. So, gas car drivers can test drive the car without it, then turn it on when they are ready to try driving a car with a superior drivetrain. For most people, once you get used to one-pedal driving, you'll find a gas car feels outdated and you'll never want to go back.

Analog Speedometer

The 2018 LEAF drops the large, easy-to-read digital speedometer for a boring analog speedometer. Jose tells me that Nissan thinks people don't like the digital speedometer, that it doesn't provide feedback on acceleration the way an analog speedometer does. I like the digital speedometer and find that having my back pressed into the seat is all the feedback I need on acceleration.

ProPilot

Nissan did a demo of autoparking at the worldwide announcement, but that feature is only available in Japan, not the United States. Jose gave me the lame company line that US drivers don't use the autoparking feature; maybe we'll get it later. I don't know what the real story is, but that's nonsense.

We got on the freeway and I engaged the ProPilot cruise control feature. As with any cruise control, you get to the speed you want then hit a button. The car will keep you at that speed when it can, but responds to traffic and slows down when there's a slower car in front of you, then speeds back up when the road is clear. It also detects the lane lines on the road and keeps the car centered in the lane. Despite being a nice, sunny afternoon with clearly visible lines on the freeway, the car lost the vision lock a few times and I had to take control. It did slow down when a slower car got in front of us.

It seemed to me like the car was keeping us to the left of center in the lane. Maybe its sensors are better than mine, but I found it a little unnerving when we had a giant semi slowly pass us on the left. I didn't like being so close and took control to put us more center-right in the lane.

When we exited the freeway, I left the ProPilot cruise control on which arguably isn't how it's intended to be used. The exit peels off very gradually for a pretty long, straight stretch. That was working fine, the ProPilot was slowing down to match the car in front of us. As the lane made a gradual curve to the right, the car in front of us was no longer directly ahead, so the LEAF tried to resume full speed. It clearly didn't understand that the lane was curving and that slow car was still in front of us. I disabled the ProPilot at that point.

Maybe it would be cool on a long freeway run, but I found the ProPilot to be too unreliable to really relax and let it drive.

Even when the ProPilot isn't engaged, it watches the road and warns you if you drift in the lane. That happened twice to me, once when I was a little off center and again when the road was curving and I thought I was in the right place.

All-Around Camera

When we got back to the house, I tried out the all-around camera (SL package only). When you pop the LEAF into reverse, the center console screen shows both the backup camera and a simulated overhead view that displays the car's full surroundings. I know the LEAF has had a feature like this available for a few years, but it was super cool to see it in action. It was just like there was a camera over the car looking down to show the car's position in the driveway. It's done with four side camera and math, a very nice effect.

Bluetooth Audio

I paired my iPhone 6 up to the car to play some music. That works great, with plenty of volume. The Tesla Model S fails the "enough volume" test when playing Bluetooth from an iPhone. So that was nice.

Premium Bose Sound System

The test drive vehicle was a top-of-the-line SL with all the bells and whistles, including a super-duper Bose sound system which eats up a small slice of the hatch with amplifiers. When I had my iPhone hooked up, I played some Led Zeppelin and found the sound underwhelming. Our Tesla Roadster has a good sound system, with an Alpine headunit we installed. Those Zeppelin tunes sound great there, one of the pleasures of driving the Roadster. Not so much in the LEAF.

Heated Seats

We put in a very early order for our 2011, but then postponed it until they came out with the cold weather package late in the 2011 model year. Heated seats are a big win in an electric vehicle because they are more energy efficient than cabin heating, and the heated steering wheel is a guilty pleasure we love. The 2018 offers heated seats and steering wheel with the all-weather package, but it doesn't heat the rear seats. We use our LEAF in the winter and don't want to leave our rear-seat passengers in the cold. With the bigger battery, using the less efficient cabin heater is less of an issue, but we like offering heated seats to our rear-seat passengers.

Summary

Overall, the 2018 is a huge upgrade from our 2011. Not only the increased range from 84 miles to 150 miles (EPA rated range), but amazing one-pedal driving, nicely improved sound insulation and plenty of cool tech available in the higher package levels. Unfortunately, the lack of a fifth headrest makes us less interested in upgrading to a new LEAF.

Charging an electric vehicle is pretty easy: just like my cell phone, I plug it in when I get home and it's fully charged in the morning. It doesn't matter how long it takes because I'm not waiting for it to finish; the car just charges up and waits for me.

I've been driving electric vehicles since 2008, logging over 50,000 miles, and have never had an experience where my vehicle's lack of engine noise created an unsafe situation. However, the issue of quiet vehicles and pedestrians is subtle and complex.

I have had a pedestrian walk backwards through the traffic lane in a parking lot while carrying on a conversation with someone across the lot. She didn't notice my vehicle, but I was watching where I was driving and going slow enough to react to her carelessness. I just stopped and waited about 30 seconds for her to see me. She of course made a rude comment blaming me for the unsafe situation she caused.

I've also had many times when driving through a parking garage where pedestrians are walking up the middle of the traffic lane, totally oblivious to my presence. However I find that happens with about the same frequency it did when I was driving gas cars, which I attribute to the echoing in concrete garages making it hard to hear slow-moving vehicles from behind, even when they are close.

I've also had the experience of being in a shopping center parking lot, hearing a car drive up behind me, and before turning around knowing it was my wife, Cathy, because I recognized the distinctive sound of a Tesla Roadster. On the flip side, Cathy has noticed not being able to hear a nearby gas car in a parking lot because of the noise made by a much louder gas car an aisle or two over.

As a responsible driver, I don't depend on pedestrians hearing the roar of my engine so they can scramble out of my way before I mow them over. But the situation is more complex than just my personal experience.

In May of 2011, I participated in a meeting of the United Nations working group that is developing a proposal for an international standard for quiet vehicles. There I learned a great deal about the subject and was able to share my insights as an experienced electric vehicle driver.

The predominant sound made by cars moving above 15 to 20 miles per hour is tire noise. At slower speeds, it's engine idling, fans, and so forth. It's those lower speeds that are of concern.

Hybrid and electric vehicles aren't the only quiet vehicles on the road. Many modern sedans are also virtually silent at low speeds where tire noise is not significant. Therefore, the UN is taking a broader approach to this problem than the US Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2010, which only considers minimum noise levels for electric and hybrid vehicles.

The sound made by gas cars is actually quite poor for alerting pedestrians to nearby vehicle traffic. Most of the sound made by internal combustion vehicles is low-frequency, which humans have difficulty locating, and carries for long distances, adding to ambient noise levels that can mask out nearby vehicles.

For an artificial car sound to be effective, it has to be localizable and distinguishable as coming from a vehicle. So having an EV rumble like a muscle car or chirp like a bird is a terrible idea. Studies presented at the UN workgroup meeting show that the best sounds are broad spectrum sounds without low frequency content.

The issue is even more complex for blind pedestrians who develop skills in using their senses in ways that are completely outside the experience of the sighted public. The idling sounds made by stationary vehicles are useful not only for detecting the presence of nearby cars, but also for using them as positional markers. Consider walking across a wide, busy street and trying to stay in the crosswalk with your eyes closed. The sound of the idling cars nearest the crosswalk act as navigational beacons, keeping blind pedestrians from drifting out of the crosswalk and into traffic. For this reason, it's important to be able to hear a car in the street even if it is not moving.

It's also important to be able to judge the size of vehicles by their sound. Drivers behind a large, stopped vehicle can get impatient at the hold-up and decide to blast around the unwanted obstruction, only to find that there was a good reason for the large vehicle to be stopped: pedestrians in a crosswalk. For this reason, blind pedestrians may choose to avoid this risk by choosing not to cross when they hear a large vehicle at the head of the line.

As an EV driver, I appreciate the quiet ride of electric cars. The last thing I want is some obnoxious artificial sound added to my car. From what I learned at the working group meeting, a properly designed sound doesn't have to be overly loud, it can be effective even at a sound level that is below the ambient noise level. I believe we can add sound to quiet cars to increase pedestrian safety without compromising the advantage of electric cars in improved driving experience and reduced noise pollution, but doing so demands careful thought and consideration of many complex issues.

On Saturday, June 16, 2012, a dozen electric vehicles made the inaugural drive along US Highway 2 over the 4,061-foot summit at Stevens Pass utilizing the newly-installed quick charge stations. Most of these vehicles recorded data for driving and charging; this blog is a summary and analysis of that data.

Cars charging at the DCQC and Level 2 stations in Skykomish, WA.

We have analyzed this data as well as measurements from other driving and have created pages with information on planning an EV road trip, including guidelines for predicting energy use based on drive conditions and tips for avoiding quick charging pitfalls.

Thanks to Ron Johnston-Rodriguez for all his work getting electric vehicle charging stations installed along US 2 and organizing this event.

Route

This event marked the official opening of DC quick charge (DCQC) stations in Sultan, Skykomish, Leavenworth, and Wenatchee, WA. It was also a test of the spacing between stations. Tom had helped with the US 2 electrification process by collecting data for driving this route in our Tesla Roadster in December, 2010, so we had good information on the energy use required for each segment.

With a carefully-orchestrated schedule from Ron, each vehicle was assigned a charging period at each station. This added a unique constraint, as vehicles would not necessarily have sufficient time for a full charge at the DCQC stations. We provided suggestions for a target charge level when departing each location and the expected energy required to comfortably reach the next station. The most demanding segment was the one over Stevens Pass; our guidance included a recommended state-of-charge level at the summit so drivers would know whether they should stop for Level 2 charging at Stevens Pass ski resort.

We got nifty SWAG from Leavenworth and Wenatchee!

Cars

We have data from 8 Nissan LEAFs, 1 Mitsubishi iMiEV, and 1 Tesla Roadster.

The DCQC spacing worked great for the LEAFs.

The iMiEV was able to make the drive with additional charging for the segment over the pass (charging Level 2 at Stevens Pass in both directions and Level 1 at Nason Creek for the westbound trip).

The Roadster can't use DCQC stations, but with its longer range didn't need much extra energy use. Tom was able to "opportunity charge" at Level 2 while we charged our LEAF and participated in the ribbon-cutting ceremonies.

Data

For those interested in all the gory details, the data and analysis are in this spreadsheet (XLS, 214k).

Drivers recorded information on time, distance, energy, temperature, and driving conditions. The details are in the individual EV# sheets. There are summary sheets for driving and charging that compare the data for multiple vehicles.

The iMiEV (EV1 in the spreadsheet) used an amount of energy similar to the LEAFs.

There were three LEAFs with after-market state-of-charge (SOC) meters that enable more precise monitoring of battery state than the factory instrumentation. These meters show the SOC as a percentage, and also in a unit called a "gid," which represents 80 Wh of energy in the battery. The gid values fell nicely in the range of values based on the LEAF's more coarse SOC bars.

We drove our LEAF (EV4) and Roadster (EV4b) together so that we could compare energy use for the same driving conditions. They turned out to be very similar; there is a summary sheet showing the data for both cars together.

Thanks to everyone who collected and shared data: Patrick, Phil, Lee, Jeff & Mary Lynne, Matt & Laura, Bruce, George, and Mike & Kimm.

EV drivers at the US2 DCQC inaugural ceremony in Wenatchee, WA.

Photo by Jessie Lin, WSDOT. Used by permission.

Quick Charging

DCQC stations made it practical to make this trip (and the return) in a single day. We learned several things about the stations with all the data collected by drivers during this event.

One of the most enlightening was confirmation of an observation during our prior DCQC experience: the station-reported SOC is not a useful indication of the car's charge.

When using a DCQC from under 50% to get to 80%, the LEAF's charge rate averaged 400-500 Wh/minute. When charging from over 50% to "full," the charge rate averaged about 200 Wh/minute.

The charging overhead (energy from the station that didn't make it into the battery) was 10-18%.

More details on DCQC are on our page with tips for avoiding quick charging pitfalls.

Driving

For each drive segment, these are the minimum and maximum kWh (and corresponding gids and bars) used between the DCQC stations. The energy use will vary based on speed and weather conditions.

Trip	miles	kWh	gids	bars
Eastbound
Sultan to Skykomish	26.4	7.20 - 8.24	90 - 103	4.5 - 5.2
Skykomish to Leavenworth	51.0	12.24 - 14.88	153 - 186	7.7 - 9.3
Leavenworth to Wenatchee	20.5	2.40 - 2.48	30 - 31	1.5 - 1.6
Westbound
Wenatchee to Leavenworth	22.3	5.60 - 5.84	70 - 73	3.5 - 3.7
Leavenworth to Skykomish	51.0	12.48 - 13.60	156 - 170	7.8 - 8.5
Skykomish to Sultan	26.5	4.80 - 7.04	60 - 88	3.0 - 4.4

Conclusions

The spacing of the DCQC stations along US 2 over Stevens Pass works well for LEAF drivers. Level 2 charging at the pass is either helpful or mandatory for iMiEV drivers, depending on the driving conditions.

We believe that an SOC meter is a valuable tool when making a trip like this, especially when pushing the range limits of the car. Because we'd projected our energy use for each segment and had a meter providing a higher resolution SOC reading, we were able to minimize the amount of time that we spent charging — including successfully skipping one station — and return home with a comfortable buffer.

Cathy and I took an 1,823-mile electric vehicle road trip to attend the Plug In America board meeting in Berkeley, CA, on June 23rd, 2012. Ever since we took delivery of our Tesla Roadster in June of 2009, I've wanted to take it on a long road trip just to have the experience. Over the past three years, the challenge of making the drive from Seattle to California has been greatly reduced. When Rich Kaethler took delivery of his Roadster in San Carlos, CA, and drove it back to Seattle in August of 2009, and Chad Schwitters made his long trek from Seattle to San Diego and back in April of 2010, these were pioneering efforts. Now we have full speed (240V/70A) Tesla charging along I-5 from British Columbia to southern California, which makes it possible to do the Seattle-to-San Francisco drive electrically in just a couple of days.

Tesla Motors was the first automaker to sell a production electric vehicle based on lithium ion batteries, the Tesla Roadster. Current Roadster owners as well as other prospective electric vehicle owners are interested to know how these batteries will hold up over time and miles.

It's still pretty early in the game. Tesla Motors tells us that we should expect to have our battery packs holding 70% of their original capacity after 5 years or 100,000 miles. The oldest Roadsters are a bit over three years old and some vehicles are getting up into the 30,000+ mile range.

How are the battery packs holding up so far? I've collected data from 20 owners in the Pacific Northwest to get an approximate idea of our batteries are performing.

Before we dive into the results, I should explain a bit about how battery capacity is instrumented on the Roadster. The Roadster has two primary charging modes. Standard mode charges up to about 90% of the pack's capacity and holds the bottom 10% of the capacity in reserve. Range mode fully charges the battery pack and shows the full range available, including the bottom 10%. The range is shown in two ways, "Ideal Range" and "Estimated Range." Estimated range states the range based on recent driving history and so can't be compared across vehicles. Ideal range shows how many miles you can drive in the current mode if driving with the same mixed city/highway average energy use that gave the Roadster its EPA -rated 245 mile single charge range. The corresponds, for example, to driving 55 to 60 mph on level freeway in moderate weather.

First, let's see how miles driven affects battery capacity.

The red squares at the top of the graph show the range mode capacity expressed in ideal range miles (aka ideal miles) versus miles driven on each battery pack. The blue diamonds show the standard mode range. The straight lines show the tread for each set of readings. I interpret this graph to show that for this set of vehicles, individual variation between cars is larger than the pack degradation over approximately 30,000 miles. For range mode, the variation between cars is as much as 15 ideal miles between cars with comparable mileage, while the linear trend shows a drop of only 5 ideal miles across 30,000 miles of driving. For standard mode, the variation between cars of comparable mileage is under 10 ideal miles while the trend line shows a drop of perhaps 6 ideal miles.

Lithium ion batteries lose capacity over time even if you don't use them. The graph shows the same vehicles over time instead of miles.

Again, we see the same apparent patterns: variation between vehicles is larger than the average range lost over three years and variation in range mode is larger than the variation standard mode.

While this is enough data to see some patterns emerge, it's a small fraction (about 1%) of the total Roadsters on the road. I'd like to collect more data to confirm these trends and also separate the effects of time and miles. Most of the Roadsters in this set are in the relatively mild coastal climate of Oregon, Washington and British Columbia. It would be interesting to analyze data from Roadsters in more extreme climates.

How do the Tesla Roadster and Nissan LEAF compare in energy use?

Tesla Roadster owners have been driving electric for a couple of years now and have built up knowledge about how much energy is required for many different routes and driving scenarios. New Nissan LEAF owners could perhaps benefit from what Roadster owners have learned, especially in the near term while charging stations are few and far between.

On August 4, 2011, we did a test to answer a couple of questions:

How does energy use in a Nissan LEAF compare to a Tesla Roadster?

Does knowing how much energy a Roadster uses for a certain drive help a LEAF owner plan the charge needed for a long drive?

The Plan

To take a first stab at figuring things out, Cathy and I joined up with her parents, Jim and Barbara Joyce, to drive a Nissan LEAF and a Tesla Roadster on an interstate freeway up a mountain pass. We wanted to compare just the two cars and eliminate as many other variables as possible. We drove up together so we had identical road and weather conditions, put the cars on cruise control to minimize driver differences, and restricted ourselves to using the fan but not air conditioning. From Roadster data collected on previous drives and also a recent LEAF drive up the same pass, we were pretty confident it could be done from the Joyces' home even cruising at 70 mph. We were right.

The Route

We started at the Joyce residence near where Washington State Highway 18 meets Interstate 90 at Exit 25. Their LEAF started with a full charge. We drove to I-90, recorded trip and energy data at the stop light at the base of the on-ramp, accelerated up to 70 mph, then locked on cruise control. We exited I-90 at Exit 52 and recorded trip and energy data at the bottom of the off-ramp. We puttered around the summit for a bit, got some lunch, then reversed the route, again recording data at the bottom of the on-ramp getting back onto I-90 and again after exiting the freeway back at exit 25.

The Results

The graphs below show energy use for both vehicles up the pass from exit 25 to 52, a distance of 27 miles with a 2,000 foot elevation gain, then the descent back down from exit 52 to exit 25.
The graph shows that the LEAF used about 6% more energy than the Roadster on the way up and about 13% more energy on the way down. Both vehicles used about twice as much energy on the way up as the way down, although that ratio depends on the slope and speed. For a sufficiently steep road and slow descent, an electric vehicle can actually gain net energy driving downhill. At 70 mph, we did not see a lot of energy production, just low energy driving. At slower speeds, more energy would have been produced on the steep sections of the descent.

The LEAF averaged 2.7 miles per kWh (376 Wh/mi) on the way up and 4.8 mi/kWh (233 Wh/mi) on the way down, for an average of 3.3 mi/kWh (305 Wh/mi).

The Roadster averaged 2.8 miles per kWh (355 Wh/mi) on the way up and 5.5 mi/kWh (206 Wh/mi) on the way down, for an average of 3.6 mi/kWh (271 Wh/mi).

How Much Charge is Needed to Drive a LEAF Up to Snoqualmie Pass?

The LEAF doesn't give an indication of the state of charge to any useful precision, so we could only measure energy use from the trip miles and miles per kWh supplied by the LEAF. In terms of how much charge we used, the LEAF started with a full charge and ended back home with one bar showing and 4 miles on the generally worse-than-useless guess-o-meter. This included under 10 miles of driving between the freeway and home. It was a little surprising that the LEAF charge got so low given that the home-to-home energy use was only about 18 kWh, but the reported 24 kWh capacity of the battery is probably measured at a discharge rate that's lower that what's needed to climb the pass at 70 mph. Also, we know the LEAF hides some reserve charge from the driver.

From this data I conclude that starting from a full charge in Snoqualmie or North Bend, a LEAF can easily make it up and down the mountain at the speed limit without climate control. With climate control on, a bit slower speed may be required.

With a DC Quick Charge to 80% at North Bend, it could probably be done by anyone starting in the greater Seattle metro area.

Having Level 2 charging at the summit would be a big help. Even Level 1 would make a difference for someone spending the day skiing at the pass and wanting to get home with little or no charging on the way back.

Driving at lower speeds would use less charge. Really efficient driving, including better use of regenerative braking on the way down, would further decrease the charge needed.

Comparing the Nissan LEAF and Tesla Roadster

The curb weight of the Roadster is about 2,700 lbs, compared to the LEAF at 3,350 lbs. So the LEAF weighs about 25% more than the Roadster. The LEAF has a more aerodynamic shape, but has a much larger frontal cross-sectional area, so I would expect the LEAF to also have more aerodynamic drag. At freeway speeds, one would expect the aerodynamic drag to be a bigger factor in energy use, but doing a significant climb increases the importance of vehicle weight.

Because of how these two issues interact under different conditions, these numbers tell the story only for this specific drive on this route at this speed. Other drives are likely to give different results, so more tests are needed to get the full picture. It would also be interesting to do the same drive with multiple LEAFs and Roadsters to see how much variation there is between vehicles of the same model.

Data Method and Repeatability

We did everything we could both to minimize the difference between the two side-by-side drives and also standardize the drive so it could be repeated later under either similar or different conditions.

It was warm enough that we had to run the car fans to stay comfortable, but we were able to avoid use of the air conditioning.

We've made some progress on a more robust Roadster J1772 conversion. As part of the conversion, we want a circuit that monitors the J1772 proximity pin and cuts the pilot signal when the latch on the connector is released. With such a circuit, a Roadster will behave as a proper J1772-compatible EV and stop the current flow when the J connector's latch is opened, thus preventing any damage to the connector pins which can occur when pulling out the plug while charging.

Cathy and I worked up the basic idea together and got a bunch of help from the EV community. Cathy put in a ton of work selecting components, soliciting feedback, iterating the design, and designing the circuit board. Our solution works without drawing any power from the car, it just uses a tiny bit of power from the incoming line voltage during charging.



We just got the first set of boards back, put one together, and tested it. It works beautifully, performing even better than I had hoped. The response time from when the switch on the connector is pressed until the pilot signal is cut is about 2.2 milliseconds. When hooked up during a charge, there's no perceptible delay between when the J1772 latch is pressed and when the Roadster stops charging.

Even more geeky information is available on Cathy's page of cool details.

In other news, the cable vendor that said they could produce the replacement inlet assembly cable for us took six weeks of excuses and delays to finally say they don't want to do it. So, we're back to the drawing board on that.